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Hand History
I am having trouble loading my APT saved hand history into the icmizer 2 hand replayer. icmizer 2 supports pokerstars hand history, and when I load the APT hand history into their replayer it shows as pokerstars on the clipboard. It will not load into their raplayer though, it gives me the error "unable to load hand history from provided text". Most all my hand history had zip to end checked, so when i folded i just got dealt a new hand. Is this the problem? icmizer 2 support said that if it is from pokerstars than it should work. Is there a certain converter i need?
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Hi,
I'm assuming you unzipped the file since it is showing as pokerstars on the clipboard.
Does it give you any other error other than the generic unable to load? If it doesn't and you have unzipped it, only the icmizer support team will be able to help - they aren't providing any info in that error message that can help identify the problem. If they are able to provide more info about what the problem could be, I'd like to know. Unfortunately, with just that generic error message, there's really no way to know what the problem is because our hand history is in the same format as pokerstars.
Zip to end should not be the problem - almost all our users use zip to end.
This thread is almost a year old but still I would like to request that APT provide a way to extract a hand history in pure PokerStars format, please. Or perhaps APT already does this and I have not found it?
This is from ICMIZER:
"Hi Mark
Thank you for your email.
There are dozens of ways to mutate the pure PokerStars format, and we do not plan to add support for mutated formats. ICMIZER supports "pure PokerStars" hand history text format. Any reasonable tracker like HM or PT has a way to export a hand as pure text which was imported into tracker so simply use the pure format when you load hands to ICMIZER. If your tracker/db doesnt has export as the pure format I recommend to contact their support and request this feature because it is literally a must-have. But there's a huge chance that it is already there."
Kind regards,
Valentin, creator of ICMIZER
@mrfleming - if you can provide an example of what "pure PokerStars" hand history is, I'd be happy to help you. As far as we know, our output is in PokerStars format, not "mutated" like he refers to - it works in the external software programs we have tested it in like PT and HM. Without an example of what he is looking for, there isn't anything we can do. It would also be helpful if ICMIZER told you exactly why the history you are trying to input isn't working. It doesn't sound like their tech support even looked at what you were doing to determine if the problem is the hand history or something else entirely. It sounds like they just are making an assumption that something must be wrong with our format - which could be the case, or it could be something completely different and unrelated to anything related to our output. If you aren't sure what "pure PokerStars" means, perhaps you can get an example from them because I tried googling and don't see any reference to this. Like I said, I think our output is in PokerStars format.
Allen I got these examples from ICMIZER
PokerStars Hand #1859726: Tournament #22955, $24.02+$24.02+$1.96 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2018/05/03 19:50:46 MSK [2018/05/03 12:50:46 ET]
Table '2295550182 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ko0osty (938 in chips)
Seat 4: drummergirl1 (604 in chips)
Seat 5: Novl2007 (984 in chips)
Seat 6: Aquablast22 (474 in chips)
ko0osty: posts the ante 3
drummergirl1: posts the ante 3
Novl2007: posts the ante 3
Aquablast22: posts the ante 3
Aquablast22: posts small blind 15
ko0osty: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ko0osty [7s 7c]
drummergirl1: folds
Novl2007: raises 951 to 981 and is all-in
Aquablast22: calls 456 and is all-in
ko0osty: calls 905 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (46) returned to Novl2007
*** FLOP *** [3d 5h Ts]
*** TURN *** [3d 5h Ts] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [3d 5h Ts Qc] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ko0osty: shows [7s 7c] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
Novl2007: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Novl2007 collected 928 from side pot
Aquablast22: shows [9h 9c] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
Novl2007 collected 1425 from main pot
Novl2007 wins the $24.02 bounty for eliminating ko0osty
Novl2007 wins the $24.02 bounty for eliminating Aquablast22
ko0osty finished the tournament in 3rd place
Aquablast22 finished the tournament in 4th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2353 Main pot 1425. Side pot 928. | Rake 0
Board [3d 5h Ts Qc Tc]
Seat 1: ko0osty (big blind) showed [7s 7c] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 4: drummergirl1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Novl2007 (button) showed [Ah Ad] and won (2353) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 6: Aquablast22 (small blind) showed [9h 9c] and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines
PokerStars Hand #9421814: Tournament #707010, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (1000/2000) - 2013/02/18 4:15:33 MSK [2013/02/17 19:15:33 ET]
Table '707010 307' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Pro.ashley69 (81768 in chips)
Seat 2: mouro74 (66379 in chips)
Seat 3: ManciaTheOne (68864 in chips)
Seat 4: Alex'LuckyK' (67175 in chips)
Seat 5: hero (188280 in chips)
Seat 6: Kraevsky (49602 in chips)
Seat 7: LEJendari (38448 in chips)
Seat 8: ShaiStar (96910 in chips)
Seat 9: GoWhiskey (46404 in chips)
Pro.ashley69: posts the ante 250
mouro74: posts the ante 250
ManciaTheOne: posts the ante 250
Alex'LuckyK': posts the ante 250
hero: posts the ante 250
Kraevsky: posts the ante 250
LEJendari: posts the ante 250
ShaiStar: posts the ante 250
GoWhiskey: posts the ante 250
ManciaTheOne: posts small blind 1000
Alex'LuckyK': posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qh 6c]
hero: folds
Kraevsky: folds
LEJendari: calls 2000
ShaiStar: folds
GoWhiskey: folds
Pro.ashley69: folds
mouro74: folds
ManciaTheOne: folds
Alex'LuckyK': checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 5s 4s]
Alex'LuckyK': checks
LEJendari: checks
*** TURN *** [7s 5s 4s] [8h]
Alex'LuckyK': bets 4000
LEJendari: calls 4000
*** RIVER *** [7s 5s 4s 8h] [Td]
Alex'LuckyK': bets 4000
LEJendari: raises 8000 to 12000
Alex'LuckyK': calls 8000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LEJendari: shows [As 8s] (a flush, Ace high)
Alex'LuckyK': mucks hand
LEJendari collected 39250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39250 | Rake 0
Board [7s 5s 4s 8h Td]
Seat 1: Pro.ashley69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mouro74 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ManciaTheOne (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Alex'LuckyK' (big blind) mucked [6h Ks]
Seat 5: hero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kraevsky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LEJendari showed [As 8s] and won (39250) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: ShaiStar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: GoWhiskey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I just went in and pulled a PokerStars hand and one of ours. Just for reference as I look at these, I see several differences between the ones you got from ICMizer and what I'm getting from PokerStars and our site - most notably that PokerStars and ours both show currency and the one from ICMizer doesn't, and ours doesn't have the second time - but that seems to vary by game type on Stars. What we have loads into PT and HM, so I'm still not sure why it won't load into ICMizer.
Has ICMizer support actually looked at what you are trying to import to see what the problem is? They would be the only ones who could say specifically why their software is rejecting what looks to be a PokerStars hand history. Bottom line is we have to get some guidance from them because I just don't see anything that should cause a problem for a good software program. The hand history information itself is identical between ours and Stars.
Here is one from PokerStars:
PokerStars Zoom Hand #190069631419: Hold'em No Limit ($0.08/$0.16) - 2018/08/19 22:12:49 CET [2018/08/19 16:12:49 ET]
Table 'Amundsen' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Flo.ger.86 ($13.89 in chips)
Seat 2: Andemit ($16.08 in chips)
Seat 3: Xenicide ($53.28 in chips)
Seat 4: fishy_373 ($16.32 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($16.21 in chips)
Seat 6: Shikov_Alex ($18.13 in chips)
Andemit: posts small blind $0.08
Xenicide: posts big blind $0.16
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kc Qc]
fishy_373: raises $0.24 to $0.40
Hero: calls $0.40
Shikov_Alex: folds
Flo.ger.86: folds
Andemit: folds
Xenicide: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 7s 3c]
fishy_373: bets $0.78
Hero: calls $0.78
*** TURN *** [6d 7s 3c] [9c]
fishy_373: bets $1.86
Hero: raises $2.46 to $4.32
fishy_373: calls $2.46
*** RIVER *** [6d 7s 3c 9c] [Jd]
fishy_373: checks
Hero: bets $5.28
fishy_373: calls $5.28
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Kc Qc] (high card King)
fishy_373: shows [Ts Tc] (a pair of Tens)
fishy_373 collected $20.82 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.80 | Rake $0.98
Board [6d 7s 3c 9c Jd]
Seat 1: Flo.ger.86 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Andemit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Xenicide (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: fishy_373 showed [Ts Tc] and won ($20.82) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: Hero showed [Kc Qc] and lost with high card King
Seat 6: Shikov_Alex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Here is ours:
PokerStars Game #172891889: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2018/08/25 12:44:36 ET
Table 'Phil's Garage, 9-max 1/2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: AllenBlay ($198 in chips)
Seat 2: MaryBennington ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: BillyJames ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: AnnaRamirez ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: BeckyNewton ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: AnneMalone ($200 in chips)
Seat 7: LacySmithers ($200 in chips)
Seat 8: MichelleLyons ($200 in chips)
Seat 9: DavidBishop ($202 in chips)
AllenBlay: posts small blind $1
MaryBennington: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AllenBlay [3s 2d]
BillyJames: folds
AnnaRamirez: calls $2
BeckyNewton: calls $2
AnneMalone: calls $2
LacySmithers: calls $2
MichelleLyons: calls $2
DavidBishop: calls $2
AllenBlay: calls $1
MaryBennington: checks
*** FLOP *** [7h 3d 5d]
AllenBlay: bets $8
MaryBennington: raises $24 to $32
AnnaRamirez: folds
BeckyNewton: folds
AnneMalone: calls $32
LacySmithers: folds
MichelleLyons: folds
DavidBishop: folds
AllenBlay: folds
MaryBennington: folds
AnneMalone collected $88 from pot
*** TURN *** [7h 3d 5d] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [7h 3d 5d 2h] [6c]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $88 | Rake $0
Seat 1: AllenBlay (small blind) [3s 2d] folded on the Flop
Seat 2: MaryBennington (big blind) [6s Js] folded on the Flop
Seat 3: BillyJames [6h Qs] folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: AnnaRamirez [Kc Ts] folded on the Flop
Seat 5: BeckyNewton [Qd Jc] folded on the Flop
Seat 6: AnneMalone [3c 3h] collected ($88)
Seat 7: LacySmithers [7d Ks] folded on the Flop
Seat 8: MichelleLyons [9h Qh] folded on the Flop
Seat 9: DavidBishop (button) [8c As] folded on the Flop
Thank you Allen, sorry my response has been slow.
ICMICER does not want to go through my posted hand history from APT and I find that very discouraging. I am considering a new product such as the ones you list, PT and HM. Also SnapShove. My interests in SnapShove is its pitch to beginners and its free versions that would allow me to study awhile before buying in.
Loading ICMIZER hand by hand is laborious, so much so that it is self defeating. Things are complicated enough for someone trying to understand these concepts for the first time.
It would be great to be able to cut and paste a session from the Final Table Trainer and study ICM pressure hand by hand.