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Pocket 6's -- why would I call an All-In in this situation?
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I don't know - why did you call? 13 players left and UTG+1 shoves. You cover her by about 1/3rd so not all-in for you but no chance I'm calling there with anything less than JJ+ or AQs+ (maybe only AK). I don't know what the pay jumps were but you were in the money already. Try running the hand through ICMIZER and I'd be willing to bet this is an insta-fold.
Well, I didn't know the stack sizes for the other table and didn't know the payout structure so I condensed the table to a 7-player final table just to get an idea. ICMIZER made this a call with 77+, A10s+, AJo+. So, even as a final table, calling with 66 is a -EV play. In this example, it also predicted that the BB (super short stack) would push with 42% of hands so he must have really had trash not to have called.
I'm not sure how the addition of the other players from the 2nd table would have affected the calculations but I'm going to assume the suggested ranges would have tightened even more from the one above, especially if there were 1 or more short stacks on that other table. Since payouts tend to be top-heavy, ICM implications from 13 players to 9 players is probably more severe than from 7 to 6 as I had to rig it for this example.
Yeah, I think most of the time when you are ahead there, you're against two overs, making it a coin flip. I would probably resist the urge to call there and at least wait out a few more spots on the pay scale.
Steve posted an excellent analysis of the hand under his Hand Reviews thread. I had no idea there was an ICM tool here so I learned something new, aside from the fact that apparently I'm way too tight in these spots.
Here is a link to my video review of this hand:
https://www.advancedpokertraining.com/poker/forum/discussion/306/hand-review-6
Well, the site thought so too because my weekly training plan had a big dose of push/fold when in the money
I thought I had a decent grasp of this but the advisors are recommending a much wider push range when either 1st to act or over early limps. The 2nd part I'm kind of ok at but pushing A6o UTG still makes me queasy. Good training.