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Pause in simulation?

johnnyjackson
johnnyjackson
in APT Questions

I am working on learning how to assign hand ranges using the MTT and Full Ring simulations.

Here is my setup:

  • "Zip to End" - unchecked - so that I can follow along on hands that I am not in.

  • "Peek at the End" - checked - So I confirm my hand range reads of the players.

  • "Speed of Play" - slowest setting - slows down the action so I can think more.

What I have found is that there are times when I would like to completely stop the hand at the flop, turn, or river, and do some calculations / estimations / review.

If the ability to pause the simulation action at the flop, turn, or river already exists, please let me know how to do it.

If this feature doesn't exist, I think it would help all advancedpokertraining.com students.

Thank you!

Comments

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay

    Hi Johnny,
    Those are the right settings for maximum study time on each hand.

    I must be misunderstanding something - it always stops at every street for you. So can't you do your calculations before acting on any street? When else would you want it to pause?

    Allen

  • johnnyjackson
    johnnyjackson
    edited September 2020

    Thanks AllenBlay!

    The proposed pause would be for hands in which I am not playing.

    Currently - If I fold - play continues uninterrupted until the hand is complete.

    This proposal is to provide the ability to pause the simulation after folding. Here is an example:

    • I am dealt 72o UTG.
    • I fold. <--
    • Play then continues with LoJack raising to 4x.
    • Button flat calls. SB and BB fold.
    • I would like the ability to pause here to calculate/estimate/etc.
    • I assign LoJack a raising range of xxx and Button a calling range of yyy.
    • Flop is [ As, 4s, Jc ]
    • LoJack bets 1/2 pot.
    • Button flat calls.
    • I would like the ability to pause here to calculate/estimate/etc.
    • I narrow LoJack's and Button's range.
    • Turn [ Tc ]
    • LoJack checks.
    • Button bets 1/3 pot.
    • LoJack calls.
    • I would like the ability to pause here to calculate/estimate/etc.
    • I narrow the ranges.
    • River is [ Qs ]
    • LoJack shoves.
    • Button folds.
    • I would like the ability to pause here to calculate/estimate/etc.
    • Peek at End shows each players cards.
    • I review my assigned ranges from pre-flop to river with the actual player hands, trying to increase accuracy.

    Thanks

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay

    I'll put it on a list of suggestions that we can talk about at our development meeting.

    Since you can play an unlimited number of hands, why wouldn't you just skip the hands you aren't involved in? Based on my observations from the site and improvements made by members, it's much more efficient to just skip the hands you aren't playing. I don't know that you can gain much from analyzing the hands you aren't playing in vs. just skipping ahead to the next hand and playing one yourself. If your goal is to improve hand reading, shouldn't you be concerned with hands that you are playing vs. ones you don't play? If you fold, that's where your decision ends - you can skip up to the end of the hand and see if your read (as of the point you folded) was good. Trying to improve your read after you fold is too late. The key is making the right reads when you are still in the hand.

  • johnnyjackson
    johnnyjackson
    edited September 2020

    OK, thanks Allen.

    This answers my next question which is - can I have a way to run the simulator without being a player at the table? That way I could put a simulation on the Very Hardest setting with the strongest bots and study the play - street by street, hand by hand.

    It seems like fast forwarding through all of the hands is a waste of valuable training information, especially in the MTT simulation, where if you fast forward through the early/middle stages, it becomes all-in bingo against ace-rags, suited connectors, and pocket pairs.

    I can always just watch video replays of WSOP, Poker After Dark, or WPT and pause to calculate/estimate/etc., as well as read books like Hansen's "Every Hand Revealed", but I was hoping to get similar research and study value from advancedpokertraining.com.

    Thanks

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