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If i understand the other part, your equity Is different against a range hands you assign to your opponent(s) as compared to assigning them a specific hand.
hi Lumberjack
remember I am a rookie so temper my comments carefully smiles
I find outs major important to use, when i on a speculative or drawing hand ... post flop
the situation usually is ...
i have after flop 4 cards to a straight or flush... villain raises... now what do I do?
One of the factors I need to make my decision (call, fold or raise) is what are my chances I will make, say that straight
here is where OUTS are essential in that calculation
I use a shortcut to determine that. Yes we can calculate it exactly (also tons of software to do it for us) but with online play I have seconds to decide and lots other things consider
so I do this...
I count how many cards are there remaining that make my straight on the next two cards (turn & river)... if its open ended it 8 right?
So I multiply outs by four. So in this case 4 x 8=32 ... so i have 32% (approximate) opportunity make straight and use that information to make my decision
If I need to determine same thing for the next street only, I multiply by two so in above case be 16%
hope that helps
Krista
@krista and @lumberjack - be careful to understand this shortcut because some people get confused and pay too much for their draws. The rule of 4 and 2 only works if you are going to see all remaining cards. So, in Krista's example of an open-ended straight draw on the flop, she is correct in approximating the odds of making the draw at ~32% BY THE RIVER, NOT JUST ON THE TURN. That's ~32% if you see both of the next cards, not just the next one. Your odds of hitting 1 of your 8 outs on the next card (turn) is actually ~17.0% and if you don't hit it then the odds of making it on the river are a little better at ~17.4%.
Here is a very good chart you can print up and keep by you while you play until you memorize it: https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-and-outs
ahhh yes so sorry ... 4 x means making that straight on all remaining streets hence 2 cards
odds make it on any one street 2 x , hence 1 card
ty warlock clarify sorry i make that confusion... runs to repair her post
good warlock keep eye one me hahaha
hugs
This is the fog of making decisions with incomplete info.
Get an equity calculator. Free online Or paid for more advanced types. Plug in a 10% range. Understand what hands are in that. Then you see hands during session and you better ascertain what range villain is playing from that position and each position.
Over time one can understand more quickly about villains' ranges.
If I see a villain showdown A5o from utg+2, 1 I know he is too wide from that position and I can attack knowing he/she has too many weak holdings.
Online HUDs are used to capture all hands played with villain (s). People actually can review all hands played and understand their opponents better. Hence range them better and improve all decisions against a given opponent.
On APT I recommend clicking PEEK AT END. This option shows all holdings at the end of each hand. Study them. Click Deal when finished to proceed to the next hand.
You also have the opportunity under SAVED SESSIONS to review each hand and find your mistakes to eliminate in addition to studying your opponents.
HTH
Hi Lumberjack
Every teacher and training advice say it critical to put an opponent on a range of cards he likely to be holding.
Exactly what highfive has said above, however seldom do we see enough shown hands to make a meaningful judgement. Ranging an opponent is a guess and we try to use whatever information available to try guess "what the heck could villain have?" There is no magic solution.
Here is what I am now doing. In any HUD that you use they all show an important statistic VPIP (how often opponent enters the pot when he no had to pre-flop) as a percentage.
I have made charts for Ranges 7%, 10%, 20%, 30% 40%, 50%, 60%, 70%, printed them and put on cards i have at my computer. 2 cards with 4 charts on each.
Now say I am late in an event and I have 50+ hands of past data on a villain, who enters the pot... the question begs - what could he possibly have?
I look at his VPIP statistic, say it is 42%. I have already defined him as loose, and I look at my 40% range chart to get a general idea of what he could be holding and opening with.
Example here a 40% chart. If a person wants plays 40% of all hands, these are the cards need open with to achieve 40%.
if I knew exactly what cards an opponent has I be the most successful person in online poker lol
an important question is always "what could he be holding"
it always a guess, so we need make it as educated a guess as possible... many other factors.. like position, SPR, etc to consider... and VPIP is just one, I use try be educated guess as possible
I temper this advice with ... at the moment I loose more often than win monies. But I havent found anything better.
HTH
Krista
Oh why i added 7%? I memorized my own openings by position, the 7% chart is just a remind to me what i need to raise against multiple limpers from blinds positions .. ignore that in the about explain
hi lumberjack
i was play yesterday at a not for money place and i think of our previous discuss of OUTs
i give this example... i am at final table and i short stacked with like 8-9bb
is a few limpers no raises...
so i limp in with 7s 8s
flop is 9s Jh 2s ... i shove all-in and get called
i no improve and a guy with A J wins... (river was A too) and says me "idiot 7 8 lol"
well i learn count "outs" and the magic number is 13...
if i have 13 outs I almost even money, win half the time, and if I have over 13 i favourite win pot
so i have a zillion outs to improve my hand and was favourite to win
so "outs" important thing consider
( i usually fight back if someone rude me at a table, but i was now spectator so i let it go and took off boxing gloves hahaha )
Krista