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APT Ring Game Hands - Random or Scripted

MAM4M
MAM4
edited August 2018 in APT Questions

I should probably know this already, but are the ring game hands against the bots random or scripted?

I note that when you start a session you get a flash message to the effect of "hands being loaded" and when you get a session report the "Percentage" column suggests that it reflects the % of APT users who you "did better than."

To me these suggest that APT session hands are "scripted" - i.e., predetermined with regard to what cards you'll be dealt, what cards your opponents will be dealt, what the board will come, etc. rather than fully random. Otherwise, how could the site make a comparison between your performance and the performance of all APT users unless the hands were in fact identical except for they way you chose to play them?

Is that correct?

If they are scripted, how does the coding of APT ensure that you'll see a representative statistical distribution (e.g., number of times you're dealt K-K when an opponent holds A-A, number of times you would flop a set vs. an opponent holding an overpair, etc. - and vice versas)?

If they are scripted vs. being determined by statistical randomness, I suppose I would be somewhat concerned about being Pavolianly conditioned to play and react with respect to an "APT scripted universe" rather than real, fully statistically random universe where the occurrences of all events - both pro and con - even out over the infinitely long term.

Comments

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay
    They are random. The comparison is based on the average performance of APT members, which in the long run works out. In any given session there is a lot of variance in that. But over time as you play more hands it becomes more accurate.

    Allen
  • MAM4M
    MAM4
    edited August 2018

    @AllenBlay said:
    They are random. The comparison is based on the average performance of APT members, which in the long run works out. In any given session there is a lot of variance in that. But over time as you play more hands it becomes more accurate.

    Allen

    Thanks Allen.

    I guess I still don't quite see how the "Percentage" metric could be at all meaningful if the 100+ hands one plays in a particular session are random hands that no one else has seen or played, but OK.

    But the "Beat the Pro" challenges are "scripted," right? If so, then you perhaps can understand that that adds a level of potential confusion.

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay
    Yes, the Beat the Pros are completely different. They are designed so that you can play the same hands as a pro and watch a replay to see how they played it.

    Keep in mind for the other sessions that your scores and comparisons are skill-adjusted - they are based on how often you made 'correct' decisions based on full information. So they are reasonably comparable between players and sessions. The only real difference is that some hands are harder to play correctly and you can get some bad luck at times (such as KK vs AA). In the instructional videos and FAQ there are some things that get into more details on this.
  • MAM4M
    MAM4
    edited August 2018

    @AllenBlay said:
    The only real difference is that some hands are harder to play correctly and you can get some bad > luck **at times **(such as KK vs AA).

    My APT paranoia says that's an understatement. :)

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