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Kind of odd advice, especially on the river. I guess the BB has some 7's since its a limped pot so she has a random hand, but is she leading with trips and no draws on the board? Wouldn't be a great play as she folds out hands she's crushing but that might take a stab if checked to. So while its possible, it isn't likely. I'd call the flop easily.
The turn is trickier because a flush draw presented itself so she may bet the 7 to charge for draws. But, if you thought you were ahead on the flop, not enough changed on the turn to make this a fold at that price. Your kicker isn't great but she didn't raise so AQ is probably out of the picture, leaving only KQ as having your hand dominated. She's not on KK or AA unless she's absolutely tight passive and if so, you'll crush her later for not raising those hands.
River you fill up so you are either chopping, she slow played KK or AA or she has quads. Since she got you to call 2 previous streets, I'd like to think she'd size up the bet if she had 777QQ beat. If she has it, good for her but I can't find a fold here either. The more I think about it, I'd like her to size up that bet to something punitive for you to call and be wrong. She knows you don't have AA or KK and its more likely she has the 7 in her position than you do. So, if there's a chance she can fold out your Q with an over-bet, I'd really like to see her make that move. If its for your tournament life, can you still make the call? In that situation I may be able to find a fold and still have plenty of chips left to work with.
Even the coaches don't get it right 100% of the time! Yes, sometimes quirky things happen with how the coaches are assessing the various factors and this one fell into that camp.
Allen had a good post in another thread where he gets into some issue related to how and when to use (and not use) the coaching advice among other issues. Here's that thread:
What you have to do is reverse engenering from river to preflop. Are you up against a crzy guy or a normal reg? If you have a dry board by example and you got a boat on the river but villain raises you allin. Board is 425Q5 and you look to your 45 boat you either up against QQ 55 or 22 And the way I do it is counting the combinations and than come to a conclusion. I fold in this hand specially when I am deep effectively
@junglefeveer said:
What you have to do is reverse engenering from river to preflop. Are you up against a crzy guy or a normal reg? If you have a dry board by example and you got a boat on the river but villain raises you allin. Board is 425Q5 and you look to your 45 boat you either up against QQ 55 or 22 And the way I do it is counting the combinations and than come to a conclusion. I fold in this hand specially when I am deep effectively
@junglefeveer said:
... If you have a dry board by example and you got a boat on the river but villain raises you allin. Board is 425Q5 and you look to your 45 boat you either up against QQ 55 or 22
1) A flop of 4/2/5 isn't dry, rainbow or not
2) If you have 4/5, the board is 4 2 5 Q 5 and he flips over 55, someone is likely going to get hurt. Games where 5 5's show up tend to get a bit chippy.
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Kind of odd advice, especially on the river. I guess the BB has some 7's since its a limped pot so she has a random hand, but is she leading with trips and no draws on the board? Wouldn't be a great play as she folds out hands she's crushing but that might take a stab if checked to. So while its possible, it isn't likely. I'd call the flop easily.
The turn is trickier because a flush draw presented itself so she may bet the 7 to charge for draws. But, if you thought you were ahead on the flop, not enough changed on the turn to make this a fold at that price. Your kicker isn't great but she didn't raise so AQ is probably out of the picture, leaving only KQ as having your hand dominated. She's not on KK or AA unless she's absolutely tight passive and if so, you'll crush her later for not raising those hands.
River you fill up so you are either chopping, she slow played KK or AA or she has quads. Since she got you to call 2 previous streets, I'd like to think she'd size up the bet if she had 777QQ beat. If she has it, good for her but I can't find a fold here either. The more I think about it, I'd like her to size up that bet to something punitive for you to call and be wrong. She knows you don't have AA or KK and its more likely she has the 7 in her position than you do. So, if there's a chance she can fold out your Q with an over-bet, I'd really like to see her make that move. If its for your tournament life, can you still make the call? In that situation I may be able to find a fold and still have plenty of chips left to work with.
im never folding that even if my mom told me to lmfao
Even the coaches don't get it right 100% of the time! Yes, sometimes quirky things happen with how the coaches are assessing the various factors and this one fell into that camp.
Allen had a good post in another thread where he gets into some issue related to how and when to use (and not use) the coaching advice among other issues. Here's that thread:
https://www.advancedpokertraining.com/poker/forum/discussion/44/
What you have to do is reverse engenering from river to preflop. Are you up against a crzy guy or a normal reg? If you have a dry board by example and you got a boat on the river but villain raises you allin. Board is 425Q5 and you look to your 45 boat you either up against QQ 55 or 22 And the way I do it is counting the combinations and than come to a conclusion. I fold in this hand specially when I am deep effectively
very well said
1) A flop of 4/2/5 isn't dry, rainbow or not
2) If you have 4/5, the board is 4 2 5 Q 5 and he flips over 55, someone is likely going to get hurt. Games where 5 5's show up tend to get a bit chippy.